{"id":511,"date":"2007-11-06T23:23:00","date_gmt":"2007-11-06T22:23:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.widmann.org.uk\/?p=511"},"modified":"2007-11-06T23:23:00","modified_gmt":"2007-11-06T22:23:00","slug":"%c3%b0%cc%9e%cb%a0","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/widmanniana.org\/blog\/%c3%b0%cc%9e%cb%a0\/","title":{"rendered":"[\u00f0\u031e\u02e0]"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"float: left; margin-right: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px;\"> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/zadignose\/129399494\/\" title=\"photo sharing\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/farm1.static.flickr.com\/54\/129399494_4ddb6b77f0_m.jpg\" alt=\"\" style=\"border: solid 2px #000000;\" \/><\/a> <br \/> <span style=\"font-size: 0.9em; margin-top: 0px;\">  <a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/zadignose\/129399494\/\">eth<\/a>  <br \/>  Originally uploaded by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/people\/zadignose\/\">???? (Zadignose)<\/a> <\/span><\/div>\n<p>When I started talking Danish around Charlotte, Marcel and Phyllis, I quickly realised they couldn&#8217;t tell \/l\/ and \/\u00f0\/ apart (for instance, they confuse <i>b\u00e5l<\/i> &#8220;bonfire&#8221; and <i>b\u00e5d<\/i> &#8220;boat&#8221;).<\/p>\n<p>My phonetic training meant that this didn&#8217;t shock me.  The Danish \/\u00f0\/ is an approximant, and is very close to an \/l\/, except that the tip of the tongue is touching the lower teeth.<\/p>\n<p>However, today I was reading through some of the old postings on <a href=\"http:\/\/pinnerup.blogspot.com\/\">Rasmus Pinnerup&#8217;s blog<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/pinnerup.blogspot.com\/2005\/01\/s-er-der-blog.html\">he states<\/a> that \/\u00f0\/ is now often velarised, that is, [\u00f0??] (shouldn&#8217;t there also be a diacritic to show it&#8217;s touching the lower teeth and not the top ones, btw?), and that makes it very similar to the English dark \/l\/ in <i>ball<\/i>.<\/p>\n<p>I tested this theory by asking Phyllis which \/l\/ she finds the Danish \/\u00f0\/ similar to, the English one or the German\/French one, and she confirmed it was the former.  So well spotted, Rasmus!<\/p>\n<p>While we are on the topic of \/\u00f0\/, it&#8217;s interesting that L\u00e9on still hasn&#8217;t figured out that he should make his tongue touch the lower teeth.  Instead, he makes it touch the top left teeth.  It looks weird, but it sounds right.<br clear=\"all\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>eth Originally uploaded by ???? (Zadignose) When I started talking Danish around Charlotte, Marcel and Phyllis, I quickly realised they couldn&#8217;t tell \/l\/ and \/\u00f0\/ apart (for instance, they confuse b\u00e5l &#8220;bonfire&#8221; and b\u00e5d &#8220;boat&#8221;). My phonetic training meant that this didn&#8217;t shock me. The Danish \/\u00f0\/ is an approximant, and is very close to an \/l\/, except that the tip of the tongue is touching the lower teeth. However, today I was reading through some of the old postings on Rasmus Pinnerup&#8217;s blog, and he states [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[90,159,115,117],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-511","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-blogging","category-en","category-kids","category-linguistics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/widmanniana.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/511","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/widmanniana.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/widmanniana.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/widmanniana.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/widmanniana.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=511"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/widmanniana.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/511\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/widmanniana.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=511"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/widmanniana.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=511"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/widmanniana.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=511"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}